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Kirde offline
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RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (19:53)
i believe the big bang story more

god? lol no thanks
Aidzeh offline
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badooooom
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (19:53)
If the Earth was just a tiny degree hotter or it was just a few measly inches closer to the Sun then we wouldn't be living on it.

Do you not think that resembles design? Plus the fact there isn't any black and white evidence pointing towards TTB, there must be something beyond our imagination controlling the World - and that thing must be God. Yes it's true the days may not have been actual days, they could have been a period of time but I still believe he created the World.
If Earth was a tiny degree hotter, or was a few inches closer to the sun then we would adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because we wouldn't be here in the first place.
yes we would, because we would of evolved to adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because our bodies would have needed to adapt to higher heats and would disprove melanin and other bodily functions.

Our body wouldn't be able to adapt to it, just like a Polar Bear wouldn't survive in the Desert and a Camel wouldn't survive in the Arctic.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science.

E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N IS A-D-A-P-T-A-T-I-O-N.
Evolving so they can adapt.

pacefalm.


It's not possible you nobcheese just like the animal example I gave you. Human Bodies aren't adaptable and before life it wouldn't be possible uderlining two wrongs. If we were inches away from the sun the bodies wouldn't function properly to make us extra extra cool.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science and therefore result to insults.

human bodies are adaptable, which is why we get stronger, why we get more stamina, more adaptability. if you want this to turn into a science lesson, so be it. if we were inches closer to the sun then the planet would be wiped out, unless we've always been inches closer to the sun causing us to adapt to this planet, or not live on this planet.


That's exactly why you fail in life, you bum your Science Teachers for shit info. We get stronger and develop more stamina because we, a) Train b) Grow

we don't adapt to a certain surroundings and instantly have a 6 pack
ask yourself this:
why do we train and grow?
what reasons do we have, other than adapting to our surroundings?
surely, a builder would have to adapt to the weight of what he's lifting, making him have to become stronger: obviously he has to train to be able to lift it. now, when training, and lifting all that heavy stuff what do you think happens? you adapt to be able to lift that heavy stuff.

also, ask yourself this:
when you sit in a hot bath, do you feel yourself adapting to the temperature, or just sitting there burning yourself?
Metafora offline
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RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (19:56)
Last edited: 20-Nov-2008 (19:56)
You are fighting with yourself now bud.
You are telling that an explosion gave us
so many skills, even adapting is a power
that animals & people can do, let's not talk
about intelligency and other stuff that no
other things in world can do.

Q: Why didn't Big Bang made animals smart
too? Give them the gift of speech and the skill
of learning.
!mustang! offline
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Make love no war
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (19:56)
When saying " I cannot sleep ".That doesnt deduce your abilities.Because by saying you cannot sleep means you got alot in your mind,or u feel some pain in any part of your body which prevents u from sleeping.Or maybe you have lots of studies to do, so u say at the following day u say i couldnt sleep last night cuz i had to finish all my work.

When saying God cannot lie. Does not mean that his abilities are less.These are just words that not always refer to the exact meaning.

God cannot lie thats true, but not because his abilities in lying are bad.But because lying is a wrong action that people do either to get out of troubles, or to gain some prestige.So God dont lie, and cant lie.

I hope you got my point.

Please no pointless replies like circular reasoning and stuff like that.
Aidzeh offline
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badooooom
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (19:57)
As Mustang said God does not lie, you might refer
to God as a lier because he's not going to reveal
the future because us, the humans cannot suffer
a pain like that, nobody knows the future and nobody
will. Only God.
i'm not calling him a liar.
what i'm saying is how can you say what god can and cannot do without contradicting one of the holy books that says what he can't do?

refer back to hebrews 6:18 - "It's impossible for God to lie".
!mustang! offline
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Make love no war
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (19:59)
If the Earth was just a tiny degree hotter or it was just a few measly inches closer to the Sun then we wouldn't be living on it.

Do you not think that resembles design? Plus the fact there isn't any black and white evidence pointing towards TTB, there must be something beyond our imagination controlling the World - and that thing must be God. Yes it's true the days may not have been actual days, they could have been a period of time but I still believe he created the World.
If Earth was a tiny degree hotter, or was a few inches closer to the sun then we would adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because we wouldn't be here in the first place.
yes we would, because we would of evolved to adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because our bodies would have needed to adapt to higher heats and would disprove melanin and other bodily functions.

Our body wouldn't be able to adapt to it, just like a Polar Bear wouldn't survive in the Desert and a Camel wouldn't survive in the Arctic.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science.

E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N IS A-D-A-P-T-A-T-I-O-N.
Evolving so they can adapt.

pacefalm.


It's not possible you nobcheese just like the animal example I gave you. Human Bodies aren't adaptable and before life it wouldn't be possible uderlining two wrongs. If we were inches away from the sun the bodies wouldn't function properly to make us extra extra cool.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science and therefore result to insults.

human bodies are adaptable, which is why we get stronger, why we get more stamina, more adaptability. if you want this to turn into a science lesson, so be it. if we were inches closer to the sun then the planet would be wiped out, unless we've always been inches closer to the sun causing us to adapt to this planet, or not live on this planet.


That's exactly why you fail in life, you bum your Science Teachers for shit info. We get stronger and develop more stamina because we, a) Train b) Grow

we don't adapt to a certain surroundings and instantly have a 6 pack
ask yourself this:
why do we train and grow?
what reasons do we have, other than adapting to our surroundings?
surely, a builder would have to adapt to the weight of what he's lifting, making him have to become stronger: obviously he has to train to be able to lift it. now, when training, and lifting all that heavy stuff what do you think happens? you adapt to be able to lift that heavy stuff.

also, ask yourself this:
when you sit in a hot bath, do you feel yourself adapting to the temperature, or just sitting there burning yourself?


Guys this got nothing to do with the theory of evolution.....:S

We need to read some scientific explanations for the theory of evolution or against it.

I myself posted some scientific proofs why the theory of evolution is wrong.I need you to post other scientific proofs why is it right.
Metafora offline
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RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:03)
Last edited: 20-Nov-2008 (20:03)
Lieing isn't an ability, it's the human root that
God does not have.

The human root is the one that makes us have
the sexual attractions, the love for money and
non-sence things, God gave us this root which
is controled by Satan, only to prove us that he
(Satan) is the same snake from Genesys.

God doesn't have the human root, he doesn't
have this lieing "skill" or the temptations we have.

I never said God can lie, we, humans refer to God
as a lier when we ask him via prayers this kind of
stuff: "God help me, the flood is coming" and we stay
on the roof of our house waiting for God to rescue us.
He will not come and lift you and put you in a safe place.
He will use other people to help you, 100 boats will come
and throw a hand but you refuse them, waiting for God.

He told you he will help you, but he's such a lier! Why didn't
he rescue me?
He did, but via other people.
Aidzeh offline
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badooooom
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:01)
You are fighting with yourself now bud.
You are telling that an explosion gave us
so many skills, even adapting is a power
that animals & people can do, let's not talk
about intelligency and other stuff that no
other things in world can do.

Q: Why didn't Big Bang made animals smart
too? Give them the gift of speech and the skill
of learning.
animals are smart, they make nests, hunt for food: something that's became redundant for most humans.
animals do have speech, they can communicate with each other - what makes you think a dog can understand you, when you're unable to understand them?
animals learn through instincts, and being taught by others - many animals can do what humans cannot do.

the big bang didn't create all this, common sense did.
!mustang! offline
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Make love no war
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:01)
When saying " I cannot sleep ".That doesnt deduce your abilities.Because by saying you cannot sleep means you got alot in your mind,or u feel some pain in any part of your body which prevents u from sleeping.Or maybe you have lots of studies to do, so u say at the following day u say i couldnt sleep last night cuz i had to finish all my work.

When saying God cannot lie. Does not mean that his abilities are less.These are just words that not always refer to the exact meaning.

God cannot lie thats true, but not because his abilities in lying are bad.But because lying is a wrong action that people do either to get out of troubles, or to gain some prestige.So God dont lie, and cant lie.

I hope you got my point.

Please no pointless replies like circular reasoning and stuff like that.
Metafora offline
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You e-date, yes, I know. [HC]
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:04)
Animals don't have the speech we have, they can't
talk to us, but we can talk to them, they can't do things
we can. They are not as smart of us.

How did common sence do that?