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vPwn3d offline
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Moo Moo I'm a Pig
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:33)
If the Earth was just a tiny degree hotter or it was just a few measly inches closer to the Sun then we wouldn't be living on it.

Do you not think that resembles design? Plus the fact there isn't any black and white evidence pointing towards TTB, there must be something beyond our imagination controlling the World - and that thing must be God. Yes it's true the days may not have been actual days, they could have been a period of time but I still believe he created the World.
If Earth was a tiny degree hotter, or was a few inches closer to the sun then we would adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because we wouldn't be here in the first place.
yes we would, because we would of evolved to adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because our bodies would have needed to adapt to higher heats and would disprove melanin and other bodily functions.

Our body wouldn't be able to adapt to it, just like a Polar Bear wouldn't survive in the Desert and a Camel wouldn't survive in the Arctic.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science.

E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N IS A-D-A-P-T-A-T-I-O-N.
Evolving so they can adapt.

pacefalm.


It's not possible you nobcheese just like the animal example I gave you. Human Bodies aren't adaptable and before life it wouldn't be possible uderlining two wrongs. If we were inches away from the sun the bodies wouldn't function properly to make us extra extra cool.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science and therefore result to insults.

human bodies are adaptable, which is why we get stronger, why we get more stamina, more adaptability. if you want this to turn into a science lesson, so be it. if we were inches closer to the sun then the planet would be wiped out, unless we've always been inches closer to the sun causing us to adapt to this planet, or not live on this planet.


That's exactly why you fail in life, you bum your Science Teachers for shit info. We get stronger and develop more stamina because we, a) Train b) Grow

we don't adapt to a certain surroundings and instantly have a 6 pack
ask yourself this:
why do we train and grow?
what reasons do we have, other than adapting to our surroundings?
surely, a builder would have to adapt to the weight of what he's lifting, making him have to become stronger: obviously he has to train to be able to lift it. now, when training, and lifting all that heavy stuff what do you think happens? you adapt to be able to lift that heavy stuff.

also, ask yourself this:
when you sit in a hot bath, do you feel yourself adapting to the temperature, or just sitting there burning yourself?


Looking on the tele and seeing good adverts from all over the world, rofl adapting to surroundings..

We grow because it's a natural essence if you haven't worked that out before? That's showing you fail in life.

We want to be stronger because on the tele there's loads of big fighters who are strong etc..
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science and therefore refer to using insults because thus person cannot debate but BAWWS when others start arguments on his forum causing his threads to derail not knowing that its himself causing them threads to derail with his inconsistent babbling and throwing insults at people who's views oppose his own.

watching tele you'd see a great deal of overweight people, you'd see a great deal with underweight people, you'd see a great deal of people with different ethnicities.
by your logic, this natural essence we have wants us all to be black, or to be white, or to be fat just because of what the media does to us.
admittedly, yes, media makes us wants to do things - but before media, what then?
why did people want to get stronger?


Badabada bla bla? Any more rubbish
vPwn3d offline
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Moo Moo I'm a Pig
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:33)
If the Earth was just a tiny degree hotter or it was just a few measly inches closer to the Sun then we wouldn't be living on it.

Do you not think that resembles design? Plus the fact there isn't any black and white evidence pointing towards TTB, there must be something beyond our imagination controlling the World - and that thing must be God. Yes it's true the days may not have been actual days, they could have been a period of time but I still believe he created the World.
If Earth was a tiny degree hotter, or was a few inches closer to the sun then we would adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because we wouldn't be here in the first place.
yes we would, because we would of evolved to adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because our bodies would have needed to adapt to higher heats and would disprove melanin and other bodily functions.

Our body wouldn't be able to adapt to it, just like a Polar Bear wouldn't survive in the Desert and a Camel wouldn't survive in the Arctic.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science.

E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N IS A-D-A-P-T-A-T-I-O-N.
Evolving so they can adapt.

pacefalm.


It's not possible you nobcheese just like the animal example I gave you. Human Bodies aren't adaptable and before life it wouldn't be possible uderlining two wrongs. If we were inches away from the sun the bodies wouldn't function properly to make us extra extra cool.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science and therefore result to insults.

human bodies are adaptable, which is why we get stronger, why we get more stamina, more adaptability. if you want this to turn into a science lesson, so be it. if we were inches closer to the sun then the planet would be wiped out, unless we've always been inches closer to the sun causing us to adapt to this planet, or not live on this planet.


That's exactly why you fail in life, you bum your Science Teachers for shit info. We get stronger and develop more stamina because we, a) Train b) Grow

we don't adapt to a certain surroundings and instantly have a 6 pack
ask yourself this:
why do we train and grow?
what reasons do we have, other than adapting to our surroundings?
surely, a builder would have to adapt to the weight of what he's lifting, making him have to become stronger: obviously he has to train to be able to lift it. now, when training, and lifting all that heavy stuff what do you think happens? you adapt to be able to lift that heavy stuff.

also, ask yourself this:
when you sit in a hot bath, do you feel yourself adapting to the temperature, or just sitting there burning yourself?


Guys this got nothing to do with the theory of evolution.....:S

We need to read some scientific explanations for the theory of evolution or against it.

I myself posted some scientific proofs why the theory of evolution is wrong.I need you to post other scientific proofs why is it right.
okay, i'll give you something that comes from my brain, and knowledge almost all have - rather than something i've hunted for on the interwebs.

we have archaeologists - archaeologists are able to date there findings to a given time.
using archaeology we are able to see similarities between one organism and another.
using archaeology we are able to tell how, through time we've changed from one thing to another.
i'm not saying the theory of evolution is right, it's just the most common sense'd theory about.


Your knowledge is found on a first page on google?
no......

but thanks for thinking i have the knowledge of the internet.


No.. it is on the internet
Aidzeh offline
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badooooom
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:36)
If the Earth was just a tiny degree hotter or it was just a few measly inches closer to the Sun then we wouldn't be living on it.

Do you not think that resembles design? Plus the fact there isn't any black and white evidence pointing towards TTB, there must be something beyond our imagination controlling the World - and that thing must be God. Yes it's true the days may not have been actual days, they could have been a period of time but I still believe he created the World.
If Earth was a tiny degree hotter, or was a few inches closer to the sun then we would adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because we wouldn't be here in the first place.
yes we would, because we would of evolved to adapt to it.

hence the theory of evolution.


No because our bodies would have needed to adapt to higher heats and would disprove melanin and other bodily functions.

Our body wouldn't be able to adapt to it, just like a Polar Bear wouldn't survive in the Desert and a Camel wouldn't survive in the Arctic.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science.

E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N IS A-D-A-P-T-A-T-I-O-N.
Evolving so they can adapt.

pacefalm.


It's not possible you nobcheese just like the animal example I gave you. Human Bodies aren't adaptable and before life it wouldn't be possible uderlining two wrongs. If we were inches away from the sun the bodies wouldn't function properly to make us extra extra cool.
itt: people who don't understand BASIC science and therefore result to insults.

human bodies are adaptable, which is why we get stronger, why we get more stamina, more adaptability. if you want this to turn into a science lesson, so be it. if we were inches closer to the sun then the planet would be wiped out, unless we've always been inches closer to the sun causing us to adapt to this planet, or not live on this planet.


That's exactly why you fail in life, you bum your Science Teachers for shit info. We get stronger and develop more stamina because we, a) Train b) Grow

we don't adapt to a certain surroundings and instantly have a 6 pack
ask yourself this:
why do we train and grow?
what reasons do we have, other than adapting to our surroundings?
surely, a builder would have to adapt to the weight of what he's lifting, making him have to become stronger: obviously he has to train to be able to lift it. now, when training, and lifting all that heavy stuff what do you think happens? you adapt to be able to lift that heavy stuff.

also, ask yourself this:
when you sit in a hot bath, do you feel yourself adapting to the temperature, or just sitting there burning yourself?


Guys this got nothing to do with the theory of evolution.....:S

We need to read some scientific explanations for the theory of evolution or against it.

I myself posted some scientific proofs why the theory of evolution is wrong.I need you to post other scientific proofs why is it right.
okay, i'll give you something that comes from my brain, and knowledge almost all have - rather than something i've hunted for on the interwebs.

we have archaeologists - archaeologists are able to date there findings to a given time.
using archaeology we are able to see similarities between one organism and another.
using archaeology we are able to tell how, through time we've changed from one thing to another.
i'm not saying the theory of evolution is right, it's just the most common sense'd theory about.


Your knowledge is found on a first page on google?
no......

but thanks for thinking i have the knowledge of the internet.


No.. it is on the internet
link plz.
!mustang! offline
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Make love no war
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:46)
Even if that was from your mind, thats off-topic.You are defending the theory of evolution and u barely know anything about it.Its not about adapting to the surroundings.Its about tiny changes in the DNA of simple creatures that caused them to convert to be another creatures.(if you know that)

I previously explained why is that wrong but u refused to read saying that i copy paste my posts so not worthy to be read.But at least i admit that i copy paste, and i get strong points.But u claim that u understand the theory(although u dont) and say ur posts r from ur mind.

Dr. Werner Gitt, former director and Professor of Information Systems at the prestigious German Federal Institute of Physics and Technology (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt), wrote that human beings are the most complex information processing systems on earth. Dr. Gitt estimated that the human body processes thousands of times more information than all the world's libraries contain.

Dr. Gitt has written several points regarding the origin of biological information:

1. In his work In the Beginning Was Information Dr. Gitt stated that “There is no known law of nature, no known process and no known sequence of events which can cause information to originate by itself in matter."
2. Dr. Gitt argued that the density and complexity of DNA information is millions of times larger than mankind's current technology and this means a supremely intelligent being was the author of this information. Similarly, Dr. Stephen C. Meyer in his 1996 essay The Origin of Life and the Death of Materialism, wrote that "the information storage density of DNA, thanks in part to nucleosome spooling, is several trillion times that of our most advanced computer chips.
3. Gitt stated that the author of the information encoded into the DNA molecule, who constructed the molecular biomachines to encode, decode and run the cells was supremely intelligent.
4. Dr. Gitt asserted that because information is a nonmaterial entity and does not originate from matter, the author of biological information must be nonmaterial (spirit).

btw thats from wikipidea
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RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:49)
God is real
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RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (20:54)
Big Bang.
Aidzeh offline
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badooooom
RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (21:00)
unlike others, mustang. i don't need evidence to back up my reasoning, it's clear as day, black and white, common sense - common sense does not need to be copy and pasted, its something you already know. now scroll up, read what i put as a reply, then link that to common sense, and something that doesn't need to be found on the internet to know. i'll say this again, since you believe the source of my knowledge is the internet, then thank you for believing that my brain power is similar to that of google; and every page on google; and every search on google; and every fu­­cking thing on the internet.
now, back on topic. why do you think DNA changes?
no, it's not just for the shi­ts and the giggles, it's actually also for adapting to your surroundings. y'know, that's why snakes are able to slide around in cracks and crevices hunting for their prey, and injecting there few hundred millilitres of poison into their prey with a single bite - this isn't just for a laugh, it's actually for adaptation - if the snake had to swim to get it's prey, then it wouldn't be need to be as eel-like as it is would it? it would be a fish-like creature - hence the theory of evolution.
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RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (21:04)
In the beginning there was nothing...then Chuck Norris Roundhouse kicked that nothing in the face and said: Get a job´. That is the story of the universe.            
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RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (21:05)
unlike others, mustang. i don't need evidence to back up my reasoning, it's clear as day, black and white, common sense - common sense does not need to be copy and pasted, its something you already know. now scroll up, read what i put as a reply, then link that to common sense, and something that doesn't need to be found on the internet to know. i'll say this again, since you believe the source of my knowledge is the internet, then thank you for believing that my brain power is similar to that of google; and every page on google; and every search on google; and every fu­­cking thing on the internet.
now, back on topic. why do you think DNA changes?
no, it's not just for the shi­ts and the giggles, it's actually also for adapting to your surroundings. y'know, that's why snakes are able to slide around in cracks and crevices hunting for their prey, and injecting there few hundred millilitres of poison into their prey with a single bite - this isn't just for a laugh, it's actually for adaptation - if the snake had to swim to get it's prey, then it wouldn't be need to be as eel-like as it is would it? it would be a fish-like creature - hence the theory of evolution.

Go Aidzeh, oh yeah, and i'm back.
And happier than ever.
Pyrophosphate offline
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RE: [Debate] God vs. Big Bang
20-Nov-2008 (21:51)
My favourite subject to debate about due to its highly complex nature.
To begin, my personal view is science above religion. There is an infinite amount of evidence pointing towards the scientific view of the creation. You cannot back up a point without evidence. You would not walk into a court room and say ‘’He killed her’’ without a substantial amount of evidence, you would get laughed at more then likely. Why do people try make claims that this so called ‘God’ made our universe with no evidence to back up the claim whatsoever.
To begin with, I read someone much earlier in the thread comment about how could humans be so creative, feel pain and so on and for forth, without there being a God. Well my dear friend, I have studied complex biology and chemistry for some years now, and there is substantial evidence of why such things happen. I shall not bore you with scientific information for the moment though. I find it rather barbaric then anyone could think such a thing. We aren’t as complex as some may think. We are merely a tiny insignificant speck in the universe.
Another interesting subject is ‘something out of nothing’. I’m not going to delve into detail, but if anyone wishes me to do so, I shall. Hypothetically speaking, something can be made out of nothing, but that is a highly complex matter, just say if you wish me to comment on it 
Yet another puzzling thing, linked to the above; The universe is expanding, but what is it expanding into? Well the answer obviously, is nothing. If the universe is expanding into nothing, it in itself proves that ‘nothing’ can hold ‘something’ .. but again, I’m not going to go into detail.
My views on religion; Fiction.
Religion was created to control the masses. Without the knowledge of science, people were oblivious as the why they were there, how they got there. They needed something to believe in. Faith. Now, that was all good and well a few million years ago, but these days, we have particular evidence to explain infinite things. Why should we believe in this so called ‘God’ who does nothing to prove himself, or that he is worthy for our faith. A strongly religious relative of mine a few months ago, never done a bad thing in her life. Where was God then? Shouldn’t he have been able to cure her with these magical powers he apparently made the world with.
I don’t mean to piiss on your bonfire so to speak, but these are just my views. I would write more and into much more detail, but I’ve had a long day